Arroz Branco ? Contra Ou A Favor Em Bulk Limpo?

[luc14n0]

Bom, cada um sabe o que seu corpo reage melhor...

eu mando batata doce e frango, a cada 3 horas.

mantenho a qualidade, e ganho volume, e força nos treinos.

demoro pra ganhar peso, mas vem tudo seco.

tenho 1,70 e 86kg, devo berar uns 7-8% de gordura, treino a 10 anos.

Questão da alimentação cada organismo reage de um jeito.

eu sou caveira na minha dieta, porque me preocupo com six pack...kkk..

faça o teste, meu amigo, veja se teu corpo reage melhor com o arroz branco, ou integral, ou a batata doce, ou a aveia... sei lá.

abrax

Bom,

Quer dizer q vc nao eh ser humano mais... Que seu corpo se tornou de um outra especie e processa diferente de cada um de nos ? Conte mais como eh sua vida, Ó ser do espaço.

[Shemp]

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QUANTA ASNEIRA

[Visitante]

Graças ao arroz integral neh brother? Realmente vou ate mudar meus conceitos agora... Vou comprar meus pacotes de arroz integral e jogar fora meu potes de whey #partiuficargigaesecocomarrozintegral

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[thisouza27]

cara, eu sou a favor de fazer sem sal, e sem oleo.

compre ervas finas, alecrim, `engane seu paladar`

[luc14n0]

Esse topico inteiro devia ir pro topico de " Maiores asneiras q vc jah viu/leu "....

[ritchien]

Quer dizer q vc nao eh ser humano mais... Que seu corpo se tornou de um outra especie e processa diferente de cada um de nos ? Conte mais como eh sua vida, Ó ser do espaço.

Lol ..

O que foi isso que você quis dizer?

Acho que o Shemp deu a melhor resposta do tópico

[VítinhUuu]

Quer dizer q vc nao eh ser humano mais... Que seu corpo se tornou de um outra especie e processa diferente de cada um de nos ? Conte mais como eh sua vida, Ó ser do espaço.

kra vc é burro ou demora a entender mesmo as coisas? rsrsrs le o que ele disse e passa a mudar seu pensamento... aposto q vc vai ter mais resultados...

Lol ..

O que foi isso que você quis dizer?

Acho que o Shemp deu a melhor resposta do tópico

aaaa cara nem é tanta asneira pq é a eterna discução aqui tu sabe como é né? rsrsrsrs

abç

[luc14n0]

Nao sou burro nao, tudo q ele escreveu eh BROSCIENCE e nao tem respaldo nenhum cientifico. Ou vc faz uma afirmacao dessa com base teorica e experimental ou cala a boca e continua achando q BB sabe tudo de nutricao e treino

Editado Novembro 7, 2013 às 16:02 por luc14n0

[thisouza27]

Quer dizer q vc nao eh ser humano mais... Que seu corpo se tornou de um outra especie e processa diferente de cada um de nos ? Conte mais como eh sua vida, Ó ser do espaço.

não falei nada disso, só disse o que faço.

se vc come pastel e coxinha e passatempo recheada, e treina a 3 meses pra pegar as meninas, e enche o rabo de cachaça. que beleza...

nunca fui muito de forum por causa desse tipo de comentário como o seu.

só tentei ajudar o colega, aquele abraço meninão.

[frankx]

tão discutindo indice glicêmico ? isso é tudo bullshit

ehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehueue

[luc14n0]

não falei nada disso, só disse o que faço.

se vc come pastel e coxinha e passatempo recheada, e treina a 3 meses pra pegar as meninas, e enche o rabo de cachaça. que beleza...

nunca fui muito de forum por causa desse tipo de comentário como o seu.

só tentei ajudar o colega, aquele abraço meninão.

Sabendo bem colega... Treino a 6 anos, como 4 ovos fritos por dia em cutting mt obrigado. E tenho namorada. Bebo 1x por semana... Q mais ?

Tenho 26 anos, acho q nao sou meninao nao.

Pesquise mais sobre nutricao e de menos opinoes baseadas em FUNCIONA CMG E COM MEUS BROTHERS que eu n tenho problema nenhum com isso.

Dieta nao precisa ser sacrificio.

Editado Novembro 7, 2013 às 16:06 por luc14n0

[Galactus]

vocês são mtos comédias....rsrs...

eu como 10 pães franceses por dia e to trincadasso....

[NiggaFat]

como não faz diferença? me manda essa materia ,fiquei curioso... o ideal é evitar picos de insulina no corpo, se vc comer arroz sua glicemia vai la em cima, ai vc promove o pico, eu mesmo ja fiz o teste

vocês são mtos comédias....rsrs...

eu como 10 pães franceses por dia e to trincadasso....

Editado Novembro 7, 2013 às 16:21 por NiggaFat

[FelipeM]

foda que sem oleo o arroz fica que nem papa fica arroz de japones

[Johnn]

foda que sem oleo o arroz fica que nem papa fica arroz de japones

Não precisa disso,cara.

Coloca seu óleozinho lá,de boa.

Não precisa virar a garrafa também.

Abraço

[Galactus]

Não precisa disso,cara.

Coloca seu óleozinho lá,de boa.

Não precisa virar a garrafa também.

Abraço

Eu só faço arroz assim. Fica muito bom. Soltinho e não precisa escorrer.

Ingredientes:

2 xícaras de arroz parboilizado

5 xícaras de água

1 cenoura picadinha (opcional)

¼ de pimentão picadinho (opcional)

Sal a gosto

Modo de Preparo:

Coloque a água para ferver enquanto você lava o arroz

Coloque o arroz na água fervente e acrescente sal, a cenoura e o pimentão. Quando a água voltar a ferver, cozinhe o arroz em fogo baixo por 10 minutos ou até que o líquido seque

Desligue o fogo e espere 5 minutos para servir. Não precisa escorrer o arroz, além de que estará soltinho

[frankx]

pico de insulina ? humalog .. riaria

você armazena gordura e queima gordura 24 hrs por dia , o que importal é o saldo final diário , por isso pouco importa a velocidade de absorção dos carboidratos , o que importa são os macros

[rafAw]

achismo? seu zé... vc n me conhece para falar que estou de achismo... vivo isso 24 horas por dia respiro isso... n saio da dieta sei exatamente o que me deixa retido ou não tudo por fazer as coisas na pratica e vc vem me falar de achismo? não viaja rapaz... vai treinar e aprender na pratica para vc ver a diferença da sua pesquisa feita por grandes doutores.... aff

Eu ate daria uma resposta com argumentos e respaldo cientifico do que estou falando, mas vc não tem capacidade de assimilar então não vale o esforço!

E sim, quando não existe respaldo de alguma fonte confiavel, o que vc esta falando eh achismo!!! Existem PROVAS COM ESTUDOS que HUMANOS(saudaveis e sem patologias especificas) não precisam se preocupar com IG dos alimentos.

Não preciso te conhecer para afirmar que é achismo, vc esta querendo contrariar fatos com o argumento que "comigo é assim que funciona".

EDIT: A criança ficou tao dolorida com meu comentario que teve que mandar inbox chingando hahahahhahaha!! esse sabe argumentar.

Editado Novembro 7, 2013 às 17:16 por rafAw

[georgebarreto]

Bulk limpo se refere ao exceder apenas umas 200kcal ao invés das tradicionais 500kcal, o resto é IIFYM.

[Boratto]

Meu endocrinologista sempre fala que "quem tem que se preocupar com ig dos alimentos é diabético".

Estou em cutting usando IIFYM, comendo carbos tanto de baixo como de alto IG e os resultados estão vindo.

Se prefere o sabor/preço do arroz branco, compre. Se prefere a lenta absorção e a melhora no intestino do integral, compre. Tanto faz.

Gostaria de saber como a pessoa "sente" qual arroz está engordando mais ou menos... até porque alimentos integrais têm mais calorias que os outros.

[marcelorc]

como não faz diferença? me manda essa materia ,fiquei curioso... o ideal é evitar picos de insulina no corpo, se vc comer arroz sua glicemia vai la em cima, ai vc promove o pico, eu mesmo ja fiz o teste

Ai esta o estudo, meu nobre. Lembrando que a proteina também da pico de insulina... MAs você não lê por ai dizendo pra não consumir proteina, lê?

https://www.hipertrofia.org/forum/topic/101736-insulina-nao-e-vila-uma-ma-reputacao-nao-merecida/

Carbo de alto IG aumenta insulina porque a glicose sobe rápido, mas depois abaixa rápido e fica um tempão sem inibir quebra de gordura. Carbo de baixo IG faz glicose subir mais devagar, liberando menos insulina, por outro lado fica inibindo quebra de gordura, mesmo que menos, por muito mais tempo.

Vejo vocês aqui falando de IG, esquecem que os testes de IG são feitos em pessoas em JEJUM, sem nada que atrapalhe a digestão.

Temos que lembrar que quando comemos carboidrato dependendo do que já tenha comido no dia, ou dependendo do que você esta ingerindo junto desse carboidrato(aguá, proteinas, gordura) esse IG vai variar, ficando bem mais lento.

Ai você vem me falar, que o o corpo vai acumular gordura usando alto IG, ai eu digo, POR QUE? Corpo trabalha com ENERGIA, e não com tipo de carboidrato, o carbo se compensa, enquanto um é mais rapido de absorver ele sai mais rapido, enquanto outro é mais lento ele sai mais lento, logo, no final sai o mesmo, no final do dia a energia ingerida é o mesmo, o que te engorda não é o carbo, e sim a energia gasta! Se vc ingerir muito carbo de alto IG de uma vez só, vai até acumular gordura nas primeiras horas, mas depois vai ficar umas 20h só quebrando gordura. Se vc ingerir as carboidratos de baixo IG pouco a pouco, inibe aqui, quebra ali, inibe aqui, quebra ali, acumula aqui, quebra lá... Enfim, o que manda é a quantidade!

Editado Novembro 7, 2013 às 18:07 por marcelorc

[mathhh]

Manda arroz integral, só que manda menos, manda umas 250gramas no máximo, e o resto manda em batata doce/inglesa

[Visitante]

 

Ai esta o estudo, meu nobre. Lembrando que a proteina também da pico de insulina... MAs você não lê por ai dizendo pra não consumir proteina, lê?

 

https://www.hipertrofia.org/forum/topic/101736-insulina-nao-e-vila-uma-ma-reputacao-nao-merecida/

 

Carbo de alto IG aumenta insulina porque a glicose sobe rápido, mas depois abaixa rápido e fica um tempão sem inibir quebra de gordura. Carbo de baixo IG faz glicose subir mais devagar, liberando menos insulina, por outro lado fica inibindo quebra de gordura, mesmo que menos, por muito mais tempo.

 

Vejo vocês aqui falando de IG, esquecem que os testes de IG são feitos em pessoas em JEJUM, sem nada que atrapalhe a digestão.

Temos que lembrar que quando comemos carboidrato dependendo do que já tenha comido no dia, ou dependendo do que você esta ingerindo junto desse carboidrato(aguá, proteinas, gordura) esse IG vai variar, ficando bem mais lento.

 

Ai você vem me falar, que o o corpo vai acumular gordura usando alto IG, ai eu digo, POR QUE? Corpo trabalha com ENERGIA, e não com tipo de carboidrato, o carbo se compensa, enquanto um é mais rapido de absorver ele sai mais rapido, enquanto outro é mais lento ele sai mais lento, logo, no final sai o mesmo, no final do dia a energia ingerida é o mesmo, o que te engorda não é o carbo, e sim a energia gasta! Se vc ingerir muito carbo de alto IG de uma vez só, vai até acumular gordura nas primeiras horas, mas depois vai ficar umas 20h só quebrando gordura. Se vc ingerir as carboidratos de baixo IG pouco a pouco, inibe aqui, quebra ali, inibe aqui, quebra ali, acumula aqui, quebra lá... Enfim, o que manda é a quantidade!

Falou tudo.. Kd os senhores da razão agora pra provar o contrario?

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[Visitante usuario_excluido22ss]

Fazer arroz sem óleo fica papa? Ai ai ai...

Se querem realmente ficar bitolados com essa questão de não usar óleo no arroz, é muito simples! Façam isso aqui ó:

Como eu sempre digo, falta prática culinária pro pessoal marombeiro, hehe!

Quanto ao IG, acho importante para aqueles que não tem dietas matemáticas de controlar macros e calorias. Fica mais fácil consumir alimentos integrais e não comer besteiras como biscoitos e sorvetes. Controlar os carbos ingeridos, ou seja, comer mais proteína e menos carbos refinados, é um método simples de controle do peso. IG realmente não faz diferença em um MEIO CONTROLADO, como em um laboratório, mas na PRÁTICA, ficar comendo alimentos refinados cheios de açúcar é problemático, a não ser que se controle muuuuito direitinho as calorias ingeridas, o que não é prático para muita gente, inclusive atletas.

Abraços!

[gaspar]

Ai esta o estudo, meu nobre. Lembrando que a proteina também da pico de insulina... MAs você não lê por ai dizendo pra não consumir proteina, lê?

https://www.hipertrofia.org/forum/topic/101736-insulina-nao-e-vila-uma-ma-reputacao-nao-merecida/

Carbo de alto IG aumenta insulina porque a glicose sobe rápido, mas depois abaixa rápido e fica um tempão sem inibir quebra de gordura. Carbo de baixo IG faz glicose subir mais devagar, liberando menos insulina, por outro lado fica inibindo quebra de gordura, mesmo que menos, por muito mais tempo.

Vejo vocês aqui falando de IG, esquecem que os testes de IG são feitos em pessoas em JEJUM, sem nada que atrapalhe a digestão.

Temos que lembrar que quando comemos carboidrato dependendo do que já tenha comido no dia, ou dependendo do que você esta ingerindo junto desse carboidrato(aguá, proteinas, gordura) esse IG vai variar, ficando bem mais lento.

Ai você vem me falar, que o o corpo vai acumular gordura usando alto IG, ai eu digo, POR QUE? Corpo trabalha com ENERGIA, e não com tipo de carboidrato, o carbo se compensa, enquanto um é mais rapido de absorver ele sai mais rapido, enquanto outro é mais lento ele sai mais lento, logo, no final sai o mesmo, no final do dia a energia ingerida é o mesmo, o que te engorda não é o carbo, e sim a energia gasta! Se vc ingerir muito carbo de alto IG de uma vez só, vai até acumular gordura nas primeiras horas, mas depois vai ficar umas 20h só quebrando gordura. Se vc ingerir as carboidratos de baixo IG pouco a pouco, inibe aqui, quebra ali, inibe aqui, quebra ali, acumula aqui, quebra lá... Enfim, o que manda é a quantidade!

Manolo aqui está certo.

E parem com broscience aqui, já dá muito trabalho explicar como as coisas funcionam para aparecer um monte de papagaio leigo repetindo as mesmas asneiras, e confundindo a galera nova que está atrás de informação.

[puzzler]

Broscience ta foda msmo...daqui a pouco vem alguem falar:

"Cara , vc tem que comer 50g de waxy maize + 20g de BCAA 7 Segundos após terminar sua ultima série de Agachamento, se não vc vai catabolizar horrores."

[marcelorc]

Quanto ao IG, acho importante para aqueles que não tem dietas matemáticas de controlar macros e calorias. Fica mais fácil consumir alimentos integrais e não comer besteiras como biscoitos e sorvetes. Controlar os carbos ingeridos, ou seja, comer mais proteína e menos carbos refinados, é um método simples de controle do peso. IG realmente não faz diferença em um MEIO CONTROLADO, como em um laboratório, mas na PRÁTICA, ficar comendo alimentos refinados cheios de açúcar é problemático, a não ser que se controle muuuuito direitinho as calorias ingeridas, o que não é prático para muita gente, inclusive atletas.

Abraços!

Concordo, meu amigo. Realmente para pessoas que não contam as calorias da dieta é bem melhor alimentos de alto IG, pois normalmente são porções grandes por baixas calorias. Aí quem não conta é melhor comer só alto IG para não ter um grande consumo calórico, por exemplo, 100g de batata doce tem 77kcal, 100g de jurueba tem 330kcal... Aí quem não conta, fica complicado mesmo. Mas quem conta, pode trocar as macros na paz que não faz mal

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[Ronan Souza Crisci]

foi legal o dia do seminario sobre carbs na escola quando disse que 100kcal de aveia sao msm que 100 kcal de pizza ( sem questao saude) nego fico bitolado pensando ''que porra que ele falo agora'' ueheuheuheuheeuh

[Pollopollo]

pico de insulina ? humalog .. riaria

você armazena gordura e queima gordura 24 hrs por dia , o que importal é o saldo final diário , por isso pouco importa a velocidade de absorção dos carboidratos , o que importa são os macros

this

Além do mais, é muito, mas muito dificil carb virar gordura em seres humanos...

[tgbritto]

Vou em um cowboy..

Pow..dieta é sempre um assunto interessante de se acompanhar...hehe